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peterhammill

USA
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Posted - 01/20/2006 :  23:20:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In one of the Limelight shows, Jean talks about the General Foods arches that were found around the New York World's Fair of 1964-1965. I believe they displayed news headlines of the day. Light bulbs would scroll across a black background.
Anyway.... Jean made some sort of joke in which he linked the General Foods arches with Wheaties breakfast cereal. Wheaties was and is made by General Mills, so there wasn't really any connection between the two. He mentioned the wrong company. At the time he made the joke, I wonder if he knew that it was General Mills and not General Foods who made the cereal. Was he hoping the audience was not as well informed about such things and he could get away with the gag because nobody would know the difference? Both are food companies with the name "General." Or did he make a mistake and really believed that General Foods made Wheaties?
Mr. Shepherd seemed much more aware of pop culture than others of the time, so I think he knew who made Wheaties. I'm guessing he was hoping the audience wouldn't know. Do you go for the joke and hope nobody notices? You risk ending up with egg on your face if you don't pull it off in front of the audience.
Any ideas on this?


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Bill Bucko

USA
359 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2006 :  21:58:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's obvious Shep enjoyed aggravating his audience, at times, or at least pulling their legs.

Such as one of the recently-posted shows where he goes on and on, deliberately misidentifying Jack Benny's classic 1945 comedy, "The Horn Blows at Midnight."

Warren G. Harding Class of '63
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m10bob

USA
233 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2006 :  23:47:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He also misidentifies nearly every character when describing Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" during a pre-Christmas show.
Sometimes I think he did this to make the phones light up, maybe his own personal means of measuring his audience ?
Since he rarely ever had call in listeners on his program, there was no need for him to acknowledge calls were coming in.

In Hoc Agricula Conc
In Est Spittle Louk
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Ralph Zig Tyko

USA
11 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2006 :  17:11:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe he was in the army with General Mills.

Ralph Zig Tyko
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diskojoe

161 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2006 :  18:57:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Question to Ralph Zig Tyko

Ralph, you said in a previous post that you saw Shep at the Limelight a few times. I was wondering if you can tell us how it felt to actually see Shep perform there. I'm just curious.
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Ralph Zig Tyko

USA
11 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2006 :  17:58:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for asking, joe... keep in mind that i was 15, maybe 16...me in a beret, in the village, a junior bohemian...I was in awe. Here was a radio 'personality' come to life... the thing that impressed me most was that it was totally unscripted-no notes. maybe two hours...his 'stage pressence' was remarkable. we all hung on every word... great energy in this crowded, tiny room. freakin' awesome!

Ralph Zig Tyko
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diskojoe

161 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2006 :  13:13:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your reply Ralph, I appreciate it. Seeing Shep @ the Limelight would be one of my stops on my fantasy trip to NYC, along with seeing Duke Ellington @ the Cotton Club, the Ramones @ CBGB's, visting the WTC , and to top it all off, a trip to Yankee Stadium to see Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS. Anyway, another question I have is whether you felt any hostility from the regulars @ the Limelight. I ask that only because from reading the NY Times article on Shep's Limelight shows (which can be found @ filcklives .com), it seems to me that the regulars of the Village didn't care for those who came to see Shep.
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Ralph Zig Tyko

USA
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Posted - 05/16/2006 :  15:31:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
don't forget my mets, disco. shep, a sox fan used to following loosers, would draw analogies to them on his wor shows. it wasn't that they lost, but HOW they lost. he was bemused...aside, no hostilities felt-good vibes all around...'till that time, z

Ralph Zig Tyko
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diskojoe

161 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2006 :  16:32:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Mets fan! So that's why you weren't offended by my reference to the 2004 ALCS, Ralph I have a friend, originally from NJ, who's a Mets fan & I don't mind them too much except for that little thing back in '86 A possible rematch this 20th anniversary year?
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Ralph Zig Tyko

USA
11 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2006 :  18:05:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
could happen, joe. bosox getting some mileage out of willie mo, an ex YANKEE farmhand... iorny prevails...let's go mets! let's go zig!..., z

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diskojoe

161 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2006 :  18:46:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As much as I would like to see the Red Sox go into the Series again, if that dosen't happen, the next best thing would be the Shep Series, the White Sox v. Mets, Shep's lovable losers from his childhood v. the lovable losers of his adulthood.
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docirv

USA
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Posted - 12/27/2006 :  15:43:54  Show Profile  Visit docirv's Homepage  Click to see docirv's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I remember seeing old Shep several times at the Limelight. It is hard to believe that I was only about 17 then and like Ralph, in total awe of ole Shep. Those shows were great. We were all mesmerized by him as he stalked back and forth on the stage with total command of every living breathing sound that was uttered during his monologue. If he ever hesitated during a performance I cannot remember it. He held all of us in the palm of his hand and the whisper and crackle of his voice. As great as those weekday radio programs were on WOR they paled in comparision to being there live. At the beginning of each Limelight show he prepped the audience to perform our only participatory event of the evening. On his cue, we all yelled,"Excelsior you fat head." And to this day I still do not know what in hell it really means. Was that a joke on us? It didn't matter we all loved that moment.
Those Saturday nights at the Limelight and those weekday evenings from 10:15 to 11 kept my sorry youth from total disaster.
On the other hand, I can remember one show at the Limelight when I attended with the first, and obvously, most intense and painful love of my life. What made it an interesting night was that we had to take a bus into NY and a subway to get to the Limelight. Well, a long story very short, we had to beg for money on the street to get bus fare to get back home. Wow, those sure were the good old days.

Doc Irv
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diskojoe

161 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2006 :  16:30:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doc, I enjoyed your memories about seeing Shep at the Limelight. I suppose, however that you didn't see your date after begging for money to get home. Anyway, as I asked Ralph earlier, do you remember any hostility towards you and/or Shep from the regular "Village" people in your forays into the Limelight?
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docirv

USA
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Posted - 12/27/2006 :  17:58:16  Show Profile  Visit docirv's Homepage  Click to see docirv's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Actually we stayed very close long after that eventful date and had many a good laugh over it. I can recall no animosity directed towards Shep from anyone in the Limelight and I was pretty much tuned out about anything else happening outside of the Limelight. I never recall anyone ever even attempting to heckle Jean, which I think would have been a terrible mistake for the poor slob who was careless enough to give him an opening to go for the throat.
Then again, I was seventeen, hopelessly in love with Lenora and totally enamored with Shep. How could I even begin to recall what reality was at that time. I suppose you could have hit me with a frying pan upside the head and I would not have known it back then to be an assault. I do wish I could go back those 43 years and actually live and feel what I did at those nights at the Limelight when my senses and emotions were young and sharp and erupting from every pore of my being. But who really knows when a great moment in one's life is occurring until it is long since finsihed and reflected upon and then discovered to be one of those moments.

Doc Irv
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diskojoe

161 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2006 :  10:59:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doc, thanks for your reply. It's nice to know that your little fiasco wasn't fatal to your relationship (it sounded like something Shep would have done himself). I understand your feelings about being at the Limelight. It must have really been an amazing time, judging from the broadcasts that I've been able to hear via the Net & MP3. I kinda wish I was able to go myself, but I was only 2 at the time & didn't discover Shep for another eight years (via his Car & Driver columns) & didn't really get into him for a further ten years. Although ACS is alright, it's only a small tip of the iceberg of Shep's outporing of talent. Thank goodness for your memories as well as the efforts of those who run this discussion board & the websites in keeping Shep's work alive. Thanks again, Doc & Happy New Year's to you as well to all of the fellow victims of this message board.
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Cfrank

9 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2007 :  14:35:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As with Doc, I don't recall any hostility from regulars or "village" people. What I do recall is how crowded the Limelight was, and how enthusiastic everyone was, with everyone clearly part of Shep's gang and Shep in full control. I still don't know how they fit so many into such a small place.

CFrank
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