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Little Stevie

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Posted - 01/11/2012 :  18:55:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah! the video that started it all for me here at sheptalk!
Your dad couldn't have played the part any better!
LS
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HassoBenSoba

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Posted - 01/13/2012 :  04:26:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
IN HONOR of today's FIRST REAL SNOWFALL OF THE 2011-12 WINTER SEASON:

Here's a couple of classic Magoun Avenue dudes from early, wintry 1955---

'49 Chevy, shades, and Teddy Bears.



LR

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wvcogs

USA
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Posted - 01/13/2012 :  09:10:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And on the chimney across the street is a TV antenna to pick up channels 2, 5, 7, and 9.
Ken
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S C Jones

USA
448 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2012 :  10:47:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Corduroy slacks and shiny shoes.
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tom w

USA
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Posted - 01/13/2012 :  12:40:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Blues Brothers for sure. Tom W
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Little Stevie

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Posted - 01/13/2012 :  15:10:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sure looks like
it was a real "white-out", wind-driven snowstorm youse had back then!
Must be at least one inch of the white stuff!
LS
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Tom J

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Posted - 01/13/2012 :  17:42:25  Show Profile  Visit Tom J's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wvcogs

And on the chimney across the street is a TV antenna to pick up channels 2, 5, 7, and 9.
Ken



Ok, I think we might have discussed this in another thread, but let's see if I get the network affiliations right.

2 = CBS
5 = NBC
7 = ABC
9 = WGN Independent

Do I have it right? Is it still like that today?

Edited by - Tom J on 01/13/2012 17:43:13
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S C Jones

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Posted - 01/13/2012 :  18:09:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tom, the only one I remember for sure is WGN Channel 9

Didn't we have a channel 7, also? something like WTTW????


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Little Stevie

USA
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Posted - 01/13/2012 :  18:24:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tom J

quote:
Originally posted by wvcogs

And on the chimney across the street is a TV antenna to pick up channels 2, 5, 7, and 9.
Ken



Ok, I think we might have discussed this in another thread, but let's see if I get the network affiliations right.

2 = CBS
5 = NBC
7 = ABC
9 = WGN Independent

Do I have it right? Is it still like that today?


Yeah Tom, that's right! WTTW was the public station paid for by viewers like you!
Channel 11 in Chicago!

Here's a question for all youse who drove around Pow-Wow, The Serenade & Kelly's:
Was this the song on the radio back then?
(TURN UP THE VOLUMNE!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWesxME9Cto&feature=related
LS

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Little Stevie

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359 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2012 :  18:29:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Or was it this song?
Great music for a cold NWI day/night!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXOfYw22A8U&feature=related
LS

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Little Stevie

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Posted - 01/13/2012 :  18:43:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HassoBenSoba

IN HONOR of today's FIRST REAL SNOWFALL OF THE 2011-12 WINTER SEASON:

Here's a couple of classic Magoun Avenue dudes from early, wintry 1955---

'49 Chevy, shades, and Teddy Bears.


LR



Two Cool Dudes, Man!
Two Cool Dudes!
LS
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wvcogs

USA
564 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2012 :  20:11:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Here's a question for all youse who drove around Pow-Wow, The Serenade & Kelly's:
Was this the song on the radio back then?
(TURN UP THE VOLUMNE!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWesxME9Cto&feature=related
LS

This Beach Boys hits, "I Get Around," and the one mentioned in the next post, "Fun, Fun, Fun," were for youse younger guys. Both were released in 1964.

Also, WTTW (Window to the World) went on the air on September 6, 1955.

Ken
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Bill Bucko

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Posted - 01/13/2012 :  20:22:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WTTW = "Window to the World"
the CBS station was WBBM

On both channels I watched science shows by Dr. Dan Q. Posin, "noted author, lecturer, and professor of physics at DePaul University," who hosted slightly wacky kid-oriented programs such as "Out of This World," "Dr. Posin's Universe," and "Dr. Posin's Giants." Slightly wacky, because he made his own funny sound effects (such as "Varroooom-whoooshh!") and allowed his black cat, Minerva Q. Posin, to stroll across the set or settle down among the planets on the big solar system model any time she wanted to.

Another great kids' TV icon I mentioned in another thread, long ago, but don't think I got any response: Uncle Johnny Coons, who hosted a noon show for kids. He'd hold up a glass of milk, say "Here's how," take a sip, and show cartoons.

Bill

Warren G. Harding Class of '63
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HassoBenSoba

USA
642 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2012 :  23:41:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sure looks like
it was a real "white-out", wind-driven snowstorm youse had back then!
Must be at least one inch of the white stuff!
LS


Steve-- That's because Mother Nature was waitin' for you to blow into town on Feb 3, '55.

Tom W--- Yeah, I never thought of the Blues Brothers:

"It's 100 miles to Woodmar;
We got Teddy Bears,
It's winter,
And we're wearin' sun-glasses.
HIT IT."


RE: TV STATIONS --

I think the Chicago local letters were:

Channel 2 - WBBM
Channel 5 - WMAQ
Channel 7 - WBKB


LR
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Little Stevie

USA
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Posted - 01/14/2012 :  00:13:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since it's Saturday,
I thought I'd share a very fond "Magoun Ave. Memory" of mine that was very personal:

Here's a photo taken in July of '59, I believe.
John Surowiec Sr., my mother's father, was the only Grandpa I ever knew.

My Dad's father, Michael Kush, died before I was born.





Grandpa Surowiec had 14 grandchildren, 12 of which were boys.
Yep . . . Little Stevie was the only grandson with sisters, older sisters at that.

I dunno if he knew the "abuse" I was taking from . . .ohhh. . . the older sisters. . . uhhh. . . the Rapchak Hooligans or if I was just his favorite.

Why do I mention this? Let me tell ya:

As long as I can remember, every Saturday morning, Grandpa would come to our house at 6920 Magoun, with a two layered chocolate cake
with chocolate icing from Golan's Bakery in East Chicago. . . just for Little Stevie!

This was MY cake! Only to be shared if Little Stevie gave permission!

Well, needless to say, I'm sure pieces were given out when Little Stevie was outside playing or at the neighbors getting a shovelful of dirt or water squirted in his face.

But I'm pretty sure no one could have a piece until Little Stevie had a couple pieces or had said it was ok for the sisters to take a piece.
But they got back at me for this. You see, I love chocolate chip cookies, so when the girls baked them they made sure to add one ingredent they knew I did not like. . .MINT!

"Oh well. . . guess you don't have to eat them if you don't want to!"

Was the "Washing of the Hands" line they'd give me!

But, every Saturday morning, there was that great moment of expectation, around ten or so, for Grandpa's Plymouth to pull up, watch him get out of the car, carrying the white box with my cake in it!
LS

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HassoBenSoba

USA
642 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2012 :  03:32:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
STEVE--

Nice story; I'm sure your grandfather was a great guy; your own chocolate cake every
Saturday---jeez----what a treat! I might have to run out now and buy me
one of those Entemann Chocolate Fudge Cakes, which I'm finding harder
to resist these days.

Cool picture, too; THAT'S how I remember you from the good old days.
If it was July, '59, that would be about a month after the shovelful
of dirt incident...and a few months before the water-spraying Christmas tree...that is,
smack-dab in the middle of our Reign of Terror. Maybe you should have had your grandfather
stop by and kick our butts.

And I'm sure I remember the t-shirt you're wearing; looks like a pic of Bambi or some other 4-legged critter.
Looks like it says "For a Little Deer" or something like that.

Larry

Edited by - HassoBenSoba on 01/14/2012 03:38:56
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bobrude

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Posted - 01/14/2012 :  06:06:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I was a little tyke there was also a channel 4 [WBKB]. I think it was from Milwaukee.It may have been replaced by one of the other channels.
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BobK

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Posted - 01/14/2012 :  06:23:57  Show Profile  Send BobK a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
http://chicagotelevision.com/WBKB.htm

Bob
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wvcogs

USA
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Posted - 01/14/2012 :  10:09:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Steve,

That's a very special story. I really appreciate you guys sharing your experiences from 50+ years ago with the rest of us.

Ken
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S C Jones

USA
448 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2012 :  10:32:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lil Stevie,

Thank you for that story of you and your grandfather—a memory to treasure and share. What was his line of work?

You two look alike in the eyes and nose area--at least in that photo.

mmmmm chocolate cake. Gotta get that thought out of my head!

SC
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Little Stevie

USA
359 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2012 :  10:56:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HassoBenSoba

STEVE--

Nice story; I'm sure your grandfather was a great guy; your own chocolate cake every
Saturday---jeez----what a treat! I might have to run out now and buy me
one of those Entemann Chocolate Fudge Cakes, which I'm finding harder
to resist these days.

Cool picture, too; THAT'S how I remember you from the good old days.
If it was July, '59, that would be about a month after the shovelful
of dirt incident...and a few months before the water-spraying Christmas tree...that is,
smack-dab in the middle of our Reign of Terror. Maybe you should have had your grandfather
stop by and kick our butts.

And I'm sure I remember the t-shirt you're wearing; looks like a pic of Bambi or some other 4-legged critter.
Looks like it says "For a Little Deer" or something like that.

Larry




Right you are, Larry!
About the tee-shirt!
Here's another photo taken the same day with my younger cousin Bob.
I'm sure we were celebrating my Uncle John's & Grandpa's birthdays. They were both in July.



Problem is, I don't know who went to the "Cave of the Mountain" or where ever the shirt came from.
I'll hafta ask the older sisters.
Probably from a vacation they went on w/o Little Stevie!

Sc, he, like all who immigrated to the U.S. in the early 1900's, LOVED the new country!
He was an orphan from Poland, his father being "taken away", sent to Siberia by the Communists.
All I remember is that he worked as a janitor at Carrie Gosh School in East Chicago, when I was very young.

My mother and I would go pick him up once and a while from work. He'd always bring out a carton of chocolate milk for me to drink on the way home.
LS

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S C Jones

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Posted - 01/14/2012 :  11:48:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Steve,
Your grandfather, an honest working man who knew what it means to be without a job, a home, and a father. What a legacy he left your family--the most special kind. Oh, and he obviously had a taste for chocolate...

thanks again for your sharing.

SC
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duane

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Posted - 01/14/2012 :  17:43:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Little Stevie

Or was it this song?
Great music for a cold NWI day/night!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXOfYw22A8U&feature=related
LS


No, it was this song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT5e4pua9LI

And while it is not related to Magoun Avenue, here is the great back-story to that single. http://members.fortunecity.com/mindzwarped/links.htm

It shows that back then, the music business was truly a grass-roots type enterprise where your next door neighbor could become a recording star - even if only a one-hit wonder (or is that o-nee-der for you Tom Hanks/That Thing You Do fans?)
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Little Stevie

USA
359 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2012 :  10:48:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just in case anyone was wondering,
because of the poor quality of the photo above with my cousin, Bob,
that's my Grandpa in the background sitting on a chair.
Ya just can't see his head in this photo!
LS

Edited by - Little Stevie on 01/15/2012 10:48:47
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S C Jones

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448 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2012 :  12:05:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did wonder. I had not seen him until I zoomed in on the photo.
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HassoBenSoba

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642 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2012 :  01:07:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I WAS SITTING AROUND TODAY thinking about Woodmar's fabulous HOUSE OF PIZZA (as I often do)....
home of the tastiest pie known to man, and one of the only two private businesses along Indy Blvd from the early days that
is still in operation today (the iconic OLD GLORY TAP is the other, and is listed in the 1948 City Directory [posted above]).

Lil' Stevie and I are going to be doing some research into some of
the businesses on Indy from the glory days of the '50's; we may have
stumbled onto a pretty authentic source for some of this stuff; more
on this as it becomes available.

HOUSE OF PIZZA (or HOP) opened at 7008 Indy sometime in 1954, occupying a single little storefront in one of the new
business-strip complexes about a block south of the legendary SERENADE Drive-In. Gradually, HOP expanded its business
and took over the adjoining storefronts, and now includes spacious dining areas and a bar.

Here's HOP as it looks today, occupying the entire building:



AND HERE'S THE SAME BUILDING--from the Purdue Archives---as it looked around 1953, taken from across the street
(east side of Indy), which was still dirt n' weeds:



At this point, HOP hadn't yet opened in this strip; the businesses in this pic are (L to R): WOODMAR GIFT SHOP,
WOODMAR BAKERY, LLOYD'S FURNITURE, WOODMAR MEN'S SHOP and MILLER REALTY
, all original tenants.
If you check my PRESENT-DAY photo above and start from the right edge of the building, you can see where each
of the original five business-spaces starts and ends. I think the current day double-doors of HOP are located where
Woodmar Bakery's south (left) door was.

ANYWAY---House of Pizza's Official address was (and has always been) 7008 Indy; in the original
pic this was the mysterious Lloyd's Furniture of Woodmar.

More to come.

LR

Edited by - HassoBenSoba on 01/22/2012 01:17:23
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Tom J

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Posted - 01/22/2012 :  07:32:19  Show Profile  Visit Tom J's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Lar, this is gonna be GOOD. I didn't even grow up in Hessville, but I still find this stuff interesting. You don't have to be from Hessville to appreciate HOP. I think everyone in Da Region is familiar with that place.

I will also be interested in the other businesses along Indy just for the pure history.

Why don't you start a new thread for this subject? I think it is very worthy of its own thread.

Tom
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duane

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Posted - 01/22/2012 :  10:45:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know this is probably sacriligious, but I've got a question about another pizza shop that opened up across the street in the late 1960's or early 1970's.

First let me redeem myself by saying that House of Pizza was the best. But for a short time many teenagers became enamoured of another pizza place (I think it was called Barton's). I remember they used wine bottles as candle holders. They were those wine bottles with rounded bottoms wrapped in a basket-type fiber. I also think there was a Barton's in Calumet City and perhaps one or two other places. Anybody remember or have any experiences at Barton's? Or any pictures of the building?

Many years later, I think this place became Rosa's pizza, or maybe just Rosa's, but I never ate there after Rosa took over.

And while we are at it, does anyone remember Casandra's coffee house in Hammond? It was somewhere near the downtown library and it was a place to go and listen to folk music performers and hang out.

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Little Stevie

USA
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Posted - 01/22/2012 :  23:15:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, being the only lifetime Magoun Ave. resident on this here board,
Let me see if I can clear up some of the info from above.
Larry is right about HOP being 7008 since inception. I don't remember Lloyd's but I do remember HOP being strictly a carry-out pizza place in the beginning.
And I do remember that the store front was the Lloyd's location, having to open the door on the north side and watching the pizza makers behind the counter to the south.
HOP opened their first dining room area to the south.

Duane,you are right, Barton's opened on the east side of Indy, north of 169th st.
What year, I'm not sure but it did become the hangout for most of the Gavit students, especially Friday nights after football games.
Barton's first pizza location I knew of was one on Ridge Road in Lansing.
LS

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HassoBenSoba

USA
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Posted - 01/22/2012 :  23:59:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
TOM--

This here's Woodmar businesses, so I'm now invoking my Woodmar citizenship, as opposed to my Hessville, which I indulge
in on those other threads.

DUANE---

BARTON's opened in the old TED's Food Store, north of 169th at 6817 Indy (I posted my early Magoun memories about an elephant
in their parking lot somewhere else on this thread). Barton's later became La Rosa's Pizza, which apparently did not attract
a particularly upstanding type of citizen; read about its recent fate (Jan 4, 2012) via this TIMES link:

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/hammond/la-rosa-restaurant-operator-calls-it-quits-after-shooting/article_871329aa-0a94-5363-990e-2c7dd91e42e0.html

So another great old Woodmar business building gets trashed.

INCIDENTALLY---it's amazing to think that, in the late 50's, there were FIVE FULL-SERVICE GROCERY STORES
in the space of about five city blocks along Indianapolis Blvd in Woodmar:

1.) NATIONAL FOODS at 6650 Indy-south end of Woodmar Shopping Center
2.) TED'S - 6817 Indy
3.) JEWEL - 6933 Indy
4.) VAN TIL's - 7030 Indy
5.) KROGER - 7212 Indy (opened in '59)

Today, in the same stretch--there are none.

LR

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duane

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Posted - 01/23/2012 :  21:57:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It could be worse...it could be Detroit, which, from about 2007 until just recently, had NO chain grocery stores...

Detroit will be left without a single national chain supermarket, much less a Wal-Mart or Meijer superstore or a Costco-style warehouse store.
Analysts say no other major city in America is such a supermarket desert. And it's not likely to change anytime soon.


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HassoBenSoba

USA
642 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2012 :  03:46:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
INTERESTINGLY......

whoever the person was who went out with a camera one day c. 1953 and took pics of the new stores on Indy Blvd....
he/she happened to do it during the very short period when LLOYD's Furniture of Woodmar was located in the
7008 Indy storefront, PRIOR to the 1954 arrival of HOUSE O' PIZZA in the same space ~



A real rarity, courtesy of the Purdue Archives. Without this photo, nobody would know the place ever existed.

LR

Edited by - HassoBenSoba on 01/24/2012 03:48:31
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seejay2

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Posted - 01/24/2012 :  07:51:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote]Originally posted by duane

It could be worse...it could be Detroit, which, from about 2007 until just recently, had NO chain grocery stores...

Detroit will be left without a single national chain supermarket, much less a Wal-Mart or Meijer superstore or a Costco-style warehouse store.
Analysts say no other major city in America is such a supermarket desert. And it's not likely to change anytime soon.


[/quote]

Have you ever been to that Godforsaken city? No one in their right mind would even attempt to open a productive business there. It wouldn't last. It would be robbed, plundered or destroyed in some way, but it would not last at all...Cj[
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Little Stevie

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Posted - 01/24/2012 :  09:57:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A really interesting
marketing concept there in the Lloyd's photo!

"Let's just throw everything in the front window, kinda hodge-podge like,
stick up a few "Open for Business" signs and see what happens!"

LS

Edited by - Little Stevie on 01/24/2012 09:59:56
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S C Jones

USA
448 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2012 :  15:07:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Little Stevie

A really interesting
marketing concept there in the Lloyd's photo!

"Let's just throw everything in the front window, kinda hodge-podge like,
stick up a few "Open for Business" signs and see what happens!"

LS



May have been on of the first, if not the first TV-in-the-kid's-room concept!
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HassoBenSoba

USA
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Posted - 01/24/2012 :  16:12:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
AND I HAD TO SEARCH FAR-AND-WIDE FOR ANY REFERENCE (other than the Purdue photos)
to confirm that LLOYD'S FURNITURE actually existed and occupied the 7008 Indy Blvd space;
NONE of the Hammond City Directories that I checked from the period or the white pages listed it.

But I DID find a single listing in the Yellow Pages of the 1954 Hammond phone book:



---even though HOUSE OF PIZZA would be listed at the same address--
7008 Indy Blvd----by the end of that year.

I don't even recall that "RUSSELL" phone exchange; only TILDEN and
WESTMORE.

yes..that's a cool little TV displayed in Lloyd's window; we had one
something like it in our basement at 6912 Magoun.

AND CHECK THE REFLECTIONS in LLOYD'S WINDOW---BEFORE the Jewel Food Store
was built across the street. Looks like that big apartment
building that's one block EAST of Indy on 169th and Olcott.

LR

Edited by - HassoBenSoba on 01/24/2012 16:20:32
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BobK

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Posted - 01/24/2012 :  16:50:50  Show Profile  Send BobK a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
You can make out Lloyd's next to the bakery in the previous photo.

My late uncle's business on Calumet was Russell 5353.

Bob
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tom w

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Posted - 01/24/2012 :  18:27:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Larry Bartons pizza had quite a past as well. The owner was so paranoid about his secret recipe that he made every employee get out of the kitchen when he made it. If you peeked in, you were fired. He carried 5 phones and beepers at all times. The Bartons in Cal City was owned by his parents. as well as Bartons on Calumet Avenue. Before Urban Renewal took all of the houses on Truman and Trankle Court and that area between Michigan and the tracks, we used to go to the house behind Bartons and buy our Christmas tree. That was the old mans too. Tom W

Edited by - tom w on 01/25/2012 01:54:27
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Little Stevie

USA
359 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2012 :  20:04:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tom w

Larry Bartons pizza had quite a past as well. The owner was so paranoid about his secret recipe that he made every employee get out of the kitchen when he made it. If you peeked in, you were fired. He carried 5 phones and beepers at all times. He was allegedly charged with murder and his lawyer got him off. That may have been a rumor. The Bartons in Cal City was owned by his parents. as well as Bartons on Calumet Avenue. Before Urban Renewal took all of the houses on Truman and Trankle Court and that area between Michigan and the tracks, we used to go to the house behind Bartons and buy our Christmas tree. That was the old mans too. Tom W



Talk about "paranoid"
The Dyer store was one of my stops in the 80's & early 90's.
The guy who ran it was as "hyper" or "paranoid" as anyone could get! Bill was his name. I think he was a Barton also. Might of been a cop somewheres too at one time.
LS
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Little Stevie

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Posted - 01/24/2012 :  23:56:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Larry,
me thinks we need to do a little more "investigating" on the building reflection in Lloyd's window.
Although I think you're right about it being the apartment building on Olcott, something tells me the angle isn't correct.
Plus, the image looks too close to be a block away.

If the 2 window panes were angled from each end, outward towards the center brace,
then the apartment building would be in the right position.

Thing is, I can't remember how the windows were situated.

Also, it may not be the orginal in the new photo, but the utility pole behind HOP is in the exact spot in both photos!
Maybe we could cut it down & count the rings to see if it is the orginal!

We might just have to snoop around the "hood" again and discuss our findings over "you-know-what" in the near future!
LS

Edited by - Little Stevie on 01/25/2012 00:11:48
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tom w

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Posted - 01/25/2012 :  01:58:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tom J Thanks again.
Steve Yup, That would be Barry. The son. Tom W
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wvcogs

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Posted - 01/25/2012 :  10:29:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Plus, the image looks too close to be a block away.

If the 2 window panes were angled from each end, outward towards the center brace, then the apartment building would be in the right position.

LS

LS -- On the Google maps street view, these windows appear to be the ones on the west side of the apartment building.
Ken
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HassoBenSoba

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Posted - 01/25/2012 :  16:30:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HERE ARE THE Purdue Archive pics of the other two main businesses in the Lloyd's/House of Pizza strip:

WOODMAR BAKERY (7010 Indy) -



AND MILLER REALTY (7002 Indy) -



THE REFLECTION/ANGLE OF THE BUILDINGS ACROSS THE STREET BECOME EVE MORE CONFUSING!
(Note the same apartment complex AND the big CHAPMAN Cleaner's sign visible in the Miller Window).

LR

Edited by - HassoBenSoba on 01/25/2012 16:32:04
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BobK

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Posted - 01/25/2012 :  17:23:28  Show Profile  Send BobK a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I think the building reflected in the window now houses Sabor A Mexico II.

Bob
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wvcogs

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Posted - 01/25/2012 :  17:47:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BobK

I think the building reflected in the window now houses Sabor A Mexico II.

Bob


You're right Bob. The reflection in the window shows the same upstairs windows that appear in the Google street view. That's the building that appeared in the Indy Blvd. photo on page 6 of this thread that was taken for the 1959 Morton yearbook.

Edited by - wvcogs on 01/25/2012 17:48:48
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HassoBenSoba

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Posted - 01/26/2012 :  02:27:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
GUYS,

Check the Purdue shot of the girl's crossing Indy Blvd on page FIVE of this thread, and you'll see
the two-story CHAPMAN building just over the top of the cars in the foreground.

I'll have to check out the scene again sometime, and maybe take a photo from the House of Pizza side
of the street looking across Indy. I think Bobs' right about Sabor de Mexico being in the old CHAPMAN Cleaner's building.

ALSO--check out the extreme right edge of the MILLER REALTY pic above---looks like another tantalizing glimpse
of the SERENADE DRIVE-IN's property...
-------------------------------------------------------
ONCE AGAIN, here's the pic of the entire strip, PRIOR ot House 'O Pizza's arrival:



7012 Indy - WOODMAR GIFT SHOP

7010 Indy - WOODMAR BAKERY(soon to be re-named "Patty-Cake Bakery")

7008 Indy - LLOYD'S FURNITURE(soon to be "House of Pizza")

7006 Indy - WOODMAR MEN'S STORE*

7002 Indy - MILLER REALTY

* 7006 Indy changed hands frequently; in this pic ('53?) it was
Woodmar Men's Store; in 1958, it was Jacques' Beauty Salon, and in
1961, Miller Realty took it over.

LR

Edited by - HassoBenSoba on 01/26/2012 02:33:21
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Little Stevie

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Posted - 01/26/2012 :  09:54:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The extreme right edge in the Miller photo looks to be the garage door of Carstensen's which sold lawnmowers and other outdoor power equipment.
It may not have been Carstensen's at the time though.
LS
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HassoBenSoba

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Posted - 01/26/2012 :  16:03:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
STEVE--

You're right; there was a whole half-block between Serenade and Miller Realty. In fact, the '54 Directory lists Carstensen's Auto
Sales and Repair at 6950 Indy
(plus another business listed as "Melody confr" (?) at 6934, which would be listed as "vacant" by
'58).

Larry
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HassoBenSoba

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Posted - 02/02/2012 :  22:05:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HEY, LOOKIE' HERE.....

It's a Yellow Pages ad from the "Pizza" section from 1960-61 (WRONG!!--see posts on next page) with HOP and
a few other notable Region establishments.




How many different ways can you draw an EYE-talian chef?

LR

Edited by - HassoBenSoba on 02/04/2012 16:45:57
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Tom J

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Posted - 02/03/2012 :  07:13:50  Show Profile  Visit Tom J's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That Cande's ad shows their address as 6310 Kennedy Avenue. When did they move to 165th?

Was there a fire or an explosion at either of those locations?

Tom
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