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Bill Bucko Posted - 12/09/2006 : 20:54:12
Please don't forget to check out our Hessville map!

Ken (wvcogs) has very kindly posted online two versions of the large Hessville map I compiled (with helpful input from Ken and others):

a half-sized version at http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/wvcogs72/Hessville_Map.jpg

and a full-sized version at http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/wvcogs72/HessvilleMap1950s.jpg

(takes 2-3 minutes to display, using a slow dial-up connection; but worth the wait!)

The map leaves out only the eastern and extreme southern parts of Hessville. It represents the area as it was in the late '50s to early '60s. Though of interest mostly to local area buffs, I think it has two uses for Shep fans:

(1) When a Shep-related place is occasionally identified (such as The Pin Bowl), the map can be used to locate it very precisely; and

(2) I've recreated the precise layout of both the old Harding portable and the newer '50s Harding (see Legend near upper right corner); this will be new to most of you. And Iíve updated the Harding school complex in light of the rare old photos that have recently come to light (thanks to Jim R and the webmaster of www.hhs59.com), and also the satellite photo Ken supplied. Iíve included only the flagpole that shows in one of the photos ... though I still seem to remember there being one on the Cleveland Street side, darn it!

Buildings and empty lots are not to exact scale. I tried, but mostly buildings show up as just as big as their label. And though I've used some of Ken's information as well as my own, the map shows only highlights, and is not complete. For anyone interested in the southernmost part of Hessville, former resident svea3 has a wealth of information.

Bill

Warren G. Harding Class of '63
50   L A T E S T    R E P L I E S    (Newest First)
TestPattern Posted - 07/19/2012 : 10:37:30
quote:
Originally posted by LegulusQ

Hey, guys, been away for [looking at watch] six months or so...
Craig
WELCOME HOME, Craig!
I've been absent for a few weeks due to computer problems.
HassoBenSoba Posted - 07/18/2012 : 14:25:36
Craig--

Great to hear from you once again; hope you are doing well.

Things have been pretty slow here, as you can see, but the stories and photos have been as good as ever.
I've got a few more things to post on the "OLPH SCHOOL" thread, which I'll do soon, including a classic
1970 potrait of Bill and Granny Grauvogl, OLPH's legendary husand-and-wife janitorial duo. The pic is from
the parish's directory, which features groups shots of the OLPH families of the day (including the Lannin,
Rapchak and Mosca clans).

Incidentally, the recipe for those classic, to-die-for PORK TACOS from Hessville's
FABULOUS HOT-DOGhas apparently survived and has been posted on the
Planet Hammond website a couple of times. Seems that a former worker at the place copied it down
and saved it.

That's very good news for all of us former Hessville-ites.

Larry
LegulusQ Posted - 07/10/2012 : 02:05:41
Hey, guys, been away for [looking at watch] six months or so...what can I say, I've been swamped with work. But tonight I suddenly got the urge to check back in at sheptalk and see what's been happening. I've enjoyed catching up on the various threads...good stuff.
I wanted to post a particular memory of the corner of Alabama and 169th from my adolescence. Larry and Mark have mentioned the effect of entering 169th from the hill on Alabama, and its effect on your clutch. Well, from a kid's perspective, the hill's reputation was born from traversing it in the opposite direction. If one was tearing down 169th from Kennedy on a bicycle heading east, a quick turn onto Alabama was straight out of a thrill ride. That location was known as "Dead Man's Curve" for bike riders. The combination of the sharp turn, the steep decline, and the notoriously loose gravel coating the roadway could be a recipe for disaster for the inexperienced! Many strawberries, lost teeth, and fractured limbs were claimed by the DMC!

Hey, what's all this about a picture of some past legendary event that was mysteriously removed? Something involving a beverage...
More, please!

Craig

LegulusQ
HassoBenSoba Posted - 05/23/2012 : 14:01:54
HERE'S ANOTHER HESSVILLE "Then & Now" pair ~

From the Hammond Library's Historical Room, a shot of 171st street looking east towards Osborn Ave (and Kennedy);
the train tracks are in the distance. Notice that very distinctive house with the big stone bricks (a dark greyish
color) on the right side:



And here it is today: (with a big tank car sitting across the tracks in the background)--



THERE'S AN INTERESTING SIDELIGHT to all of these 1955-56 street shots that I've posted here
and on the "Magoun Avenue Memories" thread (McCauley's store, Tapper Ave & 173rd, etc): All of the pics
(and there's a bunch MORE of them on file at the library) were professional quality 8x10's that were
intended to be a SET; each of them had a piece of tan masking tape stuck on the lower right-hand corner
with sloppy writing in ball-point pen; the caption on the photo above read:

"They are not my children" (referring to the juvies who are walking in the street).

I seems that the person who shot all of these pics was on a MISSION of some sort to document the shoddy
condition of Hammond Streets; all of the pics show roads that either needed repair or had no curbs or sidewalks;
I guess it was part of a safety effort to get the city's attention. Apparently, the whole set of pics was donated
to the library with the captions still intact (but which I have cut out when I did these scans).

LR
HassoBenSoba Posted - 05/21/2012 : 23:48:55
I don't want to neglect the Hessville area, so here's a pair of "THEN and NOW" pics of
173rd Street looking WEST from a viewpoint just EAST of Parrish Ave.

This first oldie was in the Hammond Library's Historical Room files:



There's the old Caldwell School on the right, and a pretty rough-lookin' wilderness everywhere else; probably 1955-56.

And here's the same view, from April, 2012.



Doug Paris' famous barber shop is just off-camera on the right (it had just opened when we moved to Hessville
50 years ago, in March of 1962. And who was the owner at the time? None other than our old pal Floyd Darnell,
our barber from Magoun Avenue whose shop was on the corner of 169th and Magoun. He decided to relocate to Hessville
into a bigger space, and hired Doug Paris to work for him.

LR

PS. Hey, Stevie...where's those PEPSI logos that you deleted from the posts above?? Sure looks bare without them...
HassoBenSoba Posted - 02/14/2012 : 03:42:58
TEST P---

THANKS FOR ALL OF THE INFO; VERY HELPFUL. I KNEW YOU'D BE ABLE TO
NAIL IT.

CAN"T HELP YOU WITH THE RETAINING WALL/STAIRS/BUILDING QUESTION. THE
WHOLE AREA AROUND THE PARKED CARS SEEMS TO BE FRAMED BY SOME SORT OF
WALL/BRICK-WORK; MAYBE THE LOT DID CONTAIN A BUILDING AT ONE POINT.

Larry
S C Jones Posted - 02/13/2012 : 13:58:29
TESTPATTERN WROTE:

Hessville Lumber was on Kennedy. At some point the Lumber Yard purchased the lot east of Alabama and west of Shipman's, and the City vacated that part Alabama for the lumber yard's private use, and Alabama became a dead end. Alabama must have been closed by the mid 1950s, as we had to walk up to Martha and east to Arizona to go south to OLPH. The 1952 city directory still shows both streets as intersections.
------------------------------------

Thank you Testpattern for some clarity regarding the Alabama/Arizona info.

SC
TestPattern Posted - 02/13/2012 : 12:24:46
quote:
Originally posted by S C Jones

I think the street that went through was NOT Alabama, but Arizona.
My folks bought our home in the 6800 block of Alabama in 1949. Originally, BOTH Alabama AND Arizona went through 169th Street.

Hessville Lumber was on Kennedy. At some point the Lumber Yard purchased the lot east of Alabama and west of Shipman's, and the City vacated that part Alabama for the lumber yard's private use, and Alabama became a dead end. Alabama must have been closed by the mid 1950s, as we had to walk up to Martha and east to Arizona to go south to OLPH. The 1952 city directory still shows both streets as intersections.

I had mentioned this before in the "Hessville Lumber" topic talking about the lumber yard fire. There is a satellite photo/map under that topic, (that I won't paste again,) but still does show remnants of the old paving that would have been Alabama.

Heading north on Alabama, there was a steep incline up to 169th Street, as Larry "HBS" indicated. A real challenge for a newbie with a stick transmission to negotiate. But Alabama was the short cut to avoid north-bound Arizona so you didn't have to cross the tracks twice, once on Arizona and again on 169th, if you were headed west. Remember, Arizona was the first street that you could head north on since Parrish, due to the cemetery and the undeveloped land, and Alabama was the option to avoid Arizona or busy Kennedy.

The building in the earlier photo, identified for "Roddin' Angels," later housed Griffith Laboratories, I think. They used to sell chemicals, needed for those all important chemistry experiments of our youth. The ground along the west side of this building was so steep, if you walked up to the south corner of the building, you could easily get on to the roof, not that any kid would actually do that. I am not sure when this building was constructed, as the 1952 city directory appears to indicate the lot as vacant.

The photo also shows something interesting. East of Conkey Cleaners there are two parked cars. You can see a concrete block retaining wall that the cars parked up to. I have a distinct memory of concrete stairs going from the parking area down to the alley - you can also see the stairs in the photo. I had always wondered if the block retaining walls were remains from a building, or if the block wall was built just as a retaining wall. Does anyone have any recollection of another building there?
seejay2 Posted - 02/12/2012 : 19:27:52
quote:
Originally posted by S C Jones

CJ

you win!

SC


God Bless!! God bless you all and thank you all!!

I especially want to thank my producer, my mother, Sister Mary Mildew, my mechanic..............................................................................................
S C Jones Posted - 02/12/2012 : 17:13:57
CJ

you win!

SC
wvcogs Posted - 02/11/2012 : 21:23:19
Yep, it was Coca Cola. I'm an eyewitness to the proof.
Sorry LS.
Ken...
Little Stevie Posted - 02/11/2012 : 18:34:33
quote:
Originally posted by HassoBenSoba


But, Steve...Pepsi logos, Rapchak brothers, Beach Boys...jeez, you see and hear em' everywhere!

LR




Well Larry,
Just a sub-conscience reaction to the ingrained impressions of my toddler/pre-school memories, that I treasure to this day!

Still waitin' for that "Picture of Proof" that it was not
"PEPSI" but the "C" word on that building.
(Must be why I don't remember the "carton on the roof" though. Mom would have made us "Cover your eyes" as we passed it!)
LS
HassoBenSoba Posted - 02/11/2012 : 15:25:57
GUYS--

SC--Since the SUBWAY building was FABULOUS HOT DOG, I don't get how the Conoco station could have been located on that small lot. Am I missing something here?

STEVE--NO WAY--it was a giant 6-pack of Coke; you can clearly see the name standing on end on the side panel.
If SC would ever come clean again with that mystery pic, you'd see.

But, Steve...Pepsi logos, Rapchak brothers, Beach Boys...jeez, you see and hear em' everywhere!

-------------------------
WHEN I ARRIVED IN HESSVILLE in Spring of '62, BOTH Arizona and Albama went through to 169th.

When heading north on ALABAMA and trying to make a turn onto 169th in icy/snowy weather, you'd sit on that steep incline, burning up your clutch trying to get some traction, while waiting for the cross-traffic to clear. The muddy, chassis-filled backlot of Roddin' Angels club was directly on your right side.

ARIZONA was also a straight shot through to 169th, heading north across the tracks, with the cemetery on your right.

Prior to '62 I wouldn't know. The guy who might be able to shed some light here would be Mark "Test Pattern", who lived right there.

LR
seejay2 Posted - 02/11/2012 : 15:15:53
quote:
Originally posted by Little Stevie

Are you sure
that's not a 6 pak of Pepsi?

It was not Pepsi. It was Coke...Trust me...Cj

The graphics on the carton remind me of the Pepsi cartons of the early 60's. Kinda yellow with stripes on the side.
Like these:






Weird thing?
A woman & girl walking down the street?
I was gonna suggest that it was . . .uhhh. . . a certain brother combination in drag.
Now that would have been weird!
LS


seejay2 Posted - 02/11/2012 : 15:12:08
quote:
Originally posted by S C Jones

KEN,

I think the street that went through was NOT Alabama, but Arizona.
The street is not Arizona. I lived on Arizona...Cj
The map shows the little triangular lot where Subway now sits and that, in my
memory is where the Conoco Station was. When we walked the tracks from
our Grand Park neighborhood to go to Hessville (Ace Theater) we would get
off the tracks at the Arizona crossing, walk 169th to Kennedy to cross at the
light.

Your memory is (to my mind) correct regarding Alabama not going up to 169th from the South. My memory is that neither Arizona nor Alabama were through streets to 169th--but as you have suggested, memory fades.

We, of course, have the advantage of being a bit older than the whippersnappers from MaGoun Ave; there may have been changes by the time they were old enough to roam Hessville.

I wonder if the Hessville Cemetary/Potter's Field (now called Lake County Cemetary} may have been an obstacle in the earlier days--as well as the RR having some say regarding crossings--Oh, the every-block whistle of the freight trains as they rolled across Hessville, I will never forget.

SC


Little Stevie Posted - 02/11/2012 : 14:15:21
Are you sure
that's not a 6 pak of Pepsi?

The graphics on the carton remind me of the Pepsi cartons of the early 60's. Kinda yellow with stripes on the side.
Like these:






Weird thing?
A woman & girl walking down the street?
I was gonna suggest that it was . . .uhhh. . . a certain brother combination in drag.
Now that would have been weird!
LS
S C Jones Posted - 02/11/2012 : 11:15:48
KEN,

I think the street that went through was NOT Alabama, but Arizona.

The map shows the little triangular lot where Subway now sits and that, in my
memory is where the Conoco Station was. When we walked the tracks from
our Grand Park neighborhood to go to Hessville (Ace Theater) we would get
off the tracks at the Arizona crossing, walk 169th to Kennedy to cross at the
light.

Your memory is (to my mind) correct regarding Alabama not going up to 169th from the South. My memory is that neither Arizona nor Alabama were through streets to 169th--but as you have suggested, memory fades.

We, of course, have the advantage of being a bit older than the whippersnappers from MaGoun Ave; there may have been changes by the time they were old enough to roam Hessville.

I wonder if the Hessville Cemetary/Potter's Field (now called Lake County Cemetary} may have been an obstacle in the earlier days--as well as the RR having some say regarding crossings--Oh, the every-block whistle of the freight trains as they rolled across Hessville, I will never forget.

SC
wvcogs Posted - 02/11/2012 : 11:01:56
In the picture it looks like Alabama Avenue went through to the south from 169th in the late 1950s; but I don't remember that. A friend of mine lived in the 6900 block of Alabama. To get to his house in 1958-1960, I would go from Kennedy to Alabama on 170th and north on Alabama. His house would have been next to the one on the left in the above photo, but much older, probably 1920 vintage.

It looks like my senior citizen memory is failing again. Do you have any ideas about Alabama being open through to 169th from the south earlier in the '50s than this photo.

Thanks.

Ken
HassoBenSoba Posted - 02/11/2012 : 00:34:09
SC--

YES--It's the two people walking toward the house; when I first looked at the pic and enlarged it, I couldn't figure out WHAT the heck I was looking at; first it looked like two tree trunks, then two lawn bags (not in use at the time), then two people in raincoats and headgear...etc. Now I seem to see what looks like a woman (on right) and a girl; the woman is wearing a coat and head scarf, the girl has blonde hair.....maybe?

Other opinions welcome. Also, note the woman standing in the door of the house.

A fascinating, "slice-o-life" pic of old-time Hessville.

Now, about that missing photo....

Larry
S C Jones Posted - 02/10/2012 : 23:23:46
Wow, it took a lot of enlargement, but I see the six pack of (don't look, Stevie)
coke---does it help if I lowercase the product name?

Larry,

Are you talking about the two people walking toward the house?--is that the
weird thang?

Oh, by the way, the Standard Station was Ferris's--my brother-in-law worked
for them for a time and we (I lived with my sister and her family for about 6 months) lived in the house that was between Ferris's station and the Pow Wow.


OH, I can see the roof of the Pow Wow---that IS weird. Or, is it the roof of the two-story building that was a storage place for PowWow and had an apartment on top?

SC
Little Stevie Posted - 02/10/2012 : 22:27:25
I see it! Are you sure it was "coke" and not a 6 pak of PEPSI?
Can't find the other bizarre thingy though!
LS
HassoBenSoba Posted - 02/10/2012 : 21:13:51
HEY, CHECK THIS OUT......

While searching through more library photos, I came across THIS fascinating shot---a continuation of
the previously-posted-pics here that show the FABULOUS HOT DOG building and the Roddin' Angel's
parking lot at the intersection of Alabama Ave and 169th.

SO, AS WE TURN OUR GAZE TO THE WEST, we see:



On the far right edge is the SINCLAIR station(NE corner of Kennedy and 169th) that would ultimately become
the NEW Fabulous Hot Dogs; continuing left you see the STANDARD station on the NW corner; continuing left, there's
CONKEY CLEANERS that Ken found listed on 169th..


THEN---LO AND BEHOLD---WHAT'S THAT WE SEE UNDER THE CONKEY CLEANERS SIGN, TILTED
to the northwest?? (Little Stevie, you'd better avert your eyes.....)

There's also something else in this photo that's kind of bizarre...

LR
Little Stevie Posted - 01/19/2012 : 17:42:52
Uhhhhhhhhhh. . . .Right through the heart!
Ya got me! Diet Coke?!
That was a 4 letter word we never used in our house!
C-O-K-E
Tea much better for you now!
LS
S C Jones Posted - 01/19/2012 : 17:37:33
LS (somehow I keep wanting to follow the LS with MFT
Well, I am sorry to have to admit this, but...
When I had to begin drinking diet rather than sugar-based, I tried to
like diet Pepsi, but it was just too sweet tasting. So, now, when I buy
a bottle of pop I buy Diet Coke--but the buying is few and far between.

I now prefer freshly brewed unsweet iced tea.

I did enjoy the pa pa pa of the Pepsi commercial, though!
BobK Posted - 01/19/2012 : 16:59:59
Things go better with Pepsi. I enjoy Pepsi when I'm not enjoying a beer.

Bob
Little Stevie Posted - 01/19/2012 : 16:43:37
quote:
Originally posted by S C Jones

As for me and my teen years, I was a dedicated Pepsi drinker.

99 bottles of Pepsi on the wall, . . . .

SC



SC,
my family thanx you for downing oh so many of those 10 ounce bottles of what I like to call
"The Nectar of the Gods"
back in your youth! I hope you're still "dedicated"!
Here's a link to one of my favorite Pepsi jingles!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du-bPdzXkTs
LS
Little Stevie Posted - 01/19/2012 : 16:29:18
You're very, very,
very welcome!
BTW, where's the photo of the coke bottle?!
Not "A" coke bottle, "Thee coke bottle" from the outdoor sign!
Am I comin' through to all you sheptalkers out there?
I'd love to see it!
What was Shipman's again? A gas station?
LS
HassoBenSoba Posted - 01/19/2012 : 15:44:57
Well, Lar, no worries here. I didn't understand a thing that article was saying....

TOM---

Neither did I

Larry


PS-- Steve...Thanks for the musical tribute; I have always enjoyed the
very unique sound of the BB's music.
Little Stevie Posted - 01/19/2012 : 14:13:15
quote:
Originally posted by Tom J

Well, Lar, no worries here. I didn't understand a thing that article was saying but I'm still proud of ya.

Tomster

DITTO TOM, DITTO!
We are all blessed to have such an individual as Lawrence in our common, everyday lives!
Just for you, Larry!
From all of us here @ sheptalk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyxTMfh81K4&feature=related
LS
Tom J Posted - 01/19/2012 : 07:19:27
Well, Lar, no worries here. I didn't understand a thing that article was saying but I'm still proud of ya.

Tomster
HassoBenSoba Posted - 01/19/2012 : 02:11:11
STEVE--

Jeez! You never miss an opportunity to make the Beach Boy's connection!

ALSO---notice right on top of the "Roddin' Angels" building the little "GAS" sign that's visible (and maybe a Coke or Pepsi logo/sign to the left of it);
that's probably SHIPMAN'S sign.

Re: This photo on Facebook---mixed feelings. Yeah, I'd rather we keep our research efforts here and let others come here to see 'em, but---none of these pics are copyrighted, and the fact that they're on the Internet means they're essentially free-for-the-taking. Just my sense of loyalty to the "underdog" Sheptalk site, I guess...and the fact that my brother Mike introduced me to y'all. But...no big deal; at least the pic will be useful in the Roddin' Angels discussion on Planet Hammond.

BOB - thanks for posting the Northbrook article on my "other" life; I try to keep a pretty low profile about it here in Whiting and just blend into the scenery.
But as long as youse' guys find it interesting, that's cool. It's challenging being a blue-collar guy at heart while trying to make it in a blue-blood profession.
There's only so much of it that I can take before I have to run down to the computer and relax by checkin' what's happening on Sheptalk.

LR
Little Stevie Posted - 01/18/2012 : 23:34:34
The question is,
why would you take pictures from that angle of your/a business?
A view from the back with junk vehicles in the foreground?
It would be interesting to know why these were taken from that spot!

RODDIN ANGELS AUTO CLUB
reminds me of these songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfrSVGiB5e0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj6cVscoeLI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH3X9AWzTXY&feature=related
And of course. . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwgGuadsqyo&feature=related

LS
S C Jones Posted - 01/18/2012 : 17:49:51
1433 Kennedy
Big Calumet Tribe #595 Red Men

So, in 1929 there was a native American group in Hessville. I tried to Google
that and got the notice of the Blackout for now. But, would be interesting
to me to see what might be on hand for info regarding the Big Calumet Tribe...

Also John Hess seems to have lived in the same building as the Hessville library
in 1929.
wvcogs Posted - 01/18/2012 : 11:36:14
I posted links to the two pages of this Kennedy Avenue directory for 1929 a couple months back. Here I have condensed it to one page that will make it easier to read. When this directory was published, the east-west streets had different names which are shown below.

Sixth Place -- 162nd Place
Seventh Place -- 163rd Place
Eighth Place -- 164th Place
Summer Blvd. -- 165th Street
Adams Street -- 167th Street
Fifteenth Avenue -- 169th Street
Johnson Avenue -- 171st Street

The list ends on the south at Black Oak Road. Also, there is no street listed for 170th Street. Mr. Joseph Fuzy is listed as living at 1540 Kennedy Avenue, which must be the same as 7004 where he still lived 32 years later in 1961. But, what's so strange about that. I still live in the house where I lived in 1980, 32 years ago. Miss Lydia Hess, daughter of the founder of Hessville, lived at 1533 Kennedy.



Ken
S C Jones Posted - 01/18/2012 : 08:27:11
Bob K:

thank you for the article featuring LR==He exemplifies the "everyman" idea, what with his conducting an orchestra while wearing 3 Stooges suspenders and having
the ability to transcend the ordinary into the world of music to the point of composing his own to conduct and mix with that of "the masters".

SC
BUT, don't tell him I said that!!!!
BobK Posted - 01/18/2012 : 06:13:43
The second photo that has the Roddin Angles Auto Club on the left, was there discussion on another photo, trying to figure out what the sign said, about a year ago here? Or was the discussion on FB Planet Hammond?


I found the discussion on FB Planet Hammond and Larry, I stole your photo to post there. I hope you don't mind.

I also found this great article about you. http://www.northbrooksymphony.org/NSO2010-2011/17%20Rapchak/Rapchak.htm



Bob
HassoBenSoba Posted - 01/18/2012 : 00:28:08
Once again, HERE'S THE ORIGINAL FABULOUS HOT DOG!! BUILDINGwhich I also posted on the "Fab Hot Dog" thread:



AND NOW----HERE'S ANOTHER SHOT of the place, taken at the same time!



AND HERES THE SAME VIEW, as she looks today (Jan, 2012):




There's a '60 CHEVY CONVERTIBLE visible in the middle pic above, so
we can safely say that the "THEN and NOW" shots are separated by almost FIFTY YEARS.

LR
S C Jones Posted - 01/12/2012 : 19:52:51
Uh-Oh, now you're "meddlin". But I am still innocent--just have some knowledge
that might be incriminating if the statute of limitations applies and one can be
in hot water for withholding information no one has ever asked for.....

Why, you dirty rat....

wvcogs Posted - 01/12/2012 : 19:34:31
quote:
Originally posted by S C Jones

So, Ken, you can vouch for my innocence--I think maybe the initial-signing may have confused the Magoun contingency. S C
Speaking of SIGNing, I remember seeing this entry on another thread about a street sign that disappeared from the Hessville map many years ago.

"While my adding to this forum, may cause all to abandon it, I was reminded by your memories of confiscations and acquisitions that one Hessville green street sign reading 'Martha St.' is now residing in a home in Tennessee."
HassoBenSoba Posted - 01/12/2012 : 00:10:16
Posted - 01/11/2012 : 01:29:02

HA!

There it is! Man...talk about statute of limitations!

Five psychedelically-enhanced dudes surrounding one pretty hefty
piece of evidence; "Your Honor...may I present Exhibit A?"

Might we know the chap on the lower right? And how about the
strategically-place finger atop of the lid?

(Pssst....don't let Little Stevie see this---he's strictly a PEPSI guy).

Another piece of Hammond history - right here on Sheptalk.

LR


OK---

WAS I HALLUCINTAING OR WHAT--- LAST NIGHT (Tuesday) WHEN I POSTED THE MESSAGE ABOVE?

My BB incident is now an open book here on Sheptalk; it's my story, and I'm stickin' with it!
Let's have that Coke Bottle photo back for posterity.


LR
S C Jones Posted - 01/11/2012 : 23:17:50
So, Ken, you can vouch for my innocence--I think maybe the initial-signing
may have confused the Magoun contingency. Either that, or there was just a feeling of the need to change
the subject lest there be time for taking action on the BB/window incident.

S C
wvcogs Posted - 01/11/2012 : 22:52:12
6 bottles of Coke on the roof, 6 bottles of Coke ... Take one down and pass it around, 5 bottles of Coke....

Yes, I do remember hearing something about that one large bottle of Coke. And it was a little larger than the 2 liters we can buy at the store these days.

Ken
S C Jones Posted - 01/11/2012 : 22:32:43
Regarding the coke bottle reference--didn't someone on Sheptalk confess to that caper a couple of years ago?

Ken I know it wasn't you, but do you remember if it was our friend who was living in Da Region at the time of the confession, then moved to another state?

As for me and my teen years, I was a dedicated Pepsi drinker.

99 bottles of Pepsi on the wall, . . . .

SC
Little Stevie Posted - 01/11/2012 : 22:26:19
Looking at the 50's photo, a few things come into view:

#1. The building hidden by the truck, with the word "Jim" on the side, must be as stated Jim & Irene's.
Looking through the front & back windshield of the truck, you can make out the beginning of "Hessville" which I assume would have read
"Jim & Irene's Hessville Tavern"

#2. ALSO, looking to the right, again through the truck's windows, is the unmistakable logo for the company that paid for the sign.

YEP! the late 50's Pepsi-Cola bottle cap logo!

#3. The truck parked in the street, in front of Jim & Irene's is
non other than a Hamm's Beer delivery truck!
Check out the lettering above the windshield of it. You'll be able to read the words.
Hamm's beer must have been distributed by "Brumm", since that is what the lettering says on the front of the truck's hood
Just a little more investigative research by Little Stevie!
LS
Little Stevie Posted - 01/11/2012 : 18:57:31
quote:
Originally posted by HassoBenSoba

The brightened version of the Kennedy/169th photo that Steve posted above clearly shows that I was standing about a block SOUTH from where
the old ('56) pic was taken. The yellow-awning building on the right edge is 6944 Kennedy...the old post office.

LR

Steve; OK, you asked fer' it: no thanks for doing this.


HEY, S.C.---WHAT HAPPENED TO THE COKE BOTTLE PIC YOU POSTED LAST NIGHT??!?



Yeah! I wanted to see that!
LS
HassoBenSoba Posted - 01/11/2012 : 17:16:24
The brightened version of the Kennedy/169th photo that Steve posted above clearly shows that I was standing about a block SOUTH from where
the old ('56) pic was taken. The yellow-awning building on the right edge is 6944 Kennedy...the old post office.

LR

Steve; OK, you asked fer' it: no thanks for doing this.


HEY, S.C.---WHAT HAPPENED TO THE COKE BOTTLE PIC YOU POSTED LAST NIGHT??!?
Little Stevie Posted - 01/11/2012 : 10:45:38
quote:
Originally posted by HassoBenSoba

HA!

There it is! Man...talk about statute of limitations!

Five psychedelically-enhanced dudes surrounding one pretty hefty
piece of evidence; "Your Honor...may I present Exhibit A?"

Might we know the chap on the lower right? And how about the
strategically-place finger atop of the lid?

(Pssst....don't let Little Stevie see this---he's strictly a PEPSI guy).

Another piece of Hammond history - right here on Sheptalk.

LR


AHH...HAA!!!
Don't let Little Stevie see this, Huh?
Too late! I seen it!
I read the whole thread on this here page. . .
So. . .
Maybe this'll help. . .



No "thank you" necessary!
LS
HassoBenSoba Posted - 01/11/2012 : 01:29:02
HA!

There it is! Man...talk about statute of limitations!

Five psychedelically-enhanced dudes surrounding one pretty hefty
piece of evidence; "Your Honor...may I present Exhibit A?"

Might we know the chap on the lower right? And how about the
strategically-place finger atop of the lid?

(Pssst....don't let Little Stevie see this---he's strictly a PEPSI guy).

Another piece of Hammond history - right here on Sheptalk.

LR
wvcogs Posted - 01/09/2012 : 20:09:19
quote:
Originally posted by HassoBenSoba


Maybe that's it; check your directories to see if Drift-In is listed on 169th.

I have a complete directory for 1970 but nothing earlier. In that one, the only thing listed between Kennedy and Alabama on the south side of 169th is Conkey Cleaners. Drive-In Liquors is still listed at 6907 Kennedy.
Ken
HassoBenSoba Posted - 01/09/2012 : 18:17:36
TEST--

Maybe that's it; check your directories to see if Drift-In is listed on 169th.
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It's amazing to consider all of the events and memories that come flooding back through our current discussions: specifically, I recall the night of Sunday, November 8, 1964, when my brother Mike and I sat in a police squad car in the parking lot of DRIVE-IN/DRIFT INN (whatever) waiting to be hauled downtown for the BB-Gun shooting of a storefront window on Arizona Ave owned by a certain ALEX Sitnick (probably related to the Steven N. Sitnick that you list above). Thankfully, our favorite relative--our Uncle BOB RAPCHAK (see recent posts on "Magoun Ave Memories"), who was then a Hammond cop, came down to the lock-up to intervene, and we were spared an official booking (of course, we got our butts kicked in every other way).

Funny the way your past seems to catch up with you here on Sheptalk..
preferably after the statute of limitations has expired.

LR

PS -- Brings to mind the story of the missing giant Coke Bottle from
the rooftop display of DRIVE-IN/DRIFT-INN that was reported on the
"Those Fabulous Hot Dog Tacos" thread a few years ago here on Sheptalk.

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